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Who is the Best Athlete, Woods, Federer, Bryant..Pacquiao?
I am an avid sports fan. I remember being at the 2003 Super Bowl watching my brother when he played with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But the memory that sticks in my head the most, besides the Buccaneers win, was the athletic grace of then Oakland Raiders receiver Jerry Rice. He was around 40 years old then and I remember saying to myself, this is quite possibly the greatest athlete of my lifetime. Now there is always room for debate. Some people prefer Michael Jordan, some Wayne Gretzky, others Tiger Woods. But with the recent success and praise of Roger Federer, Kobe Bryant, and Tiger Woods. I would like for the mainstream sports media to include Manny Pacquiao in the discussion of who is the best. And here are the reasons why.
Accomplishment
6 titles in the 6 divisions. While that is a fantastic accomplishment, the real number that sticks out is 4 lineal titles in 4 different weight classes. Manny Pacquiao has won LINEAL titles at 112, 126, 130, and 140 pounds. Putting this in perspective people. There is only one other man in the history of the most history rich sport, boxing, who has accomplished more. That would be Henry Armstrong who once held the titles of Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight all at the same time. Think about what Manny has done for a second. Imagine if this were the late 1990s, and Mark ‘Too Sharp’ Johnson, a fantastic Flyweight, went up in weight and knocked out Kosta Tszyu. If you even proposed that fight, and suggested Johnson would win, you would be laughed out of the building. Yet this is exactly comparable to what Manny Pacquiao accomplished. Kanye West would call this, “Amazing”. I call it incredible.
Grace, Athleticism
This is something that separates the greats, from the all times greats. And that is for every sport. There is a difference between Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley. Both were great, but Michael had something a little more besides 6 championship rings. The same with football, there is a difference between Jerry Rice and Cris Carter. The same can be said of Manny and his contemporaries. There are fighters who are as fast as Manny, there are fighters that hit harder then Manny, and there are fighters that move around the ring better then Manny. But NONE of them have all three attributes and Manny Pacquiao does. If you really want to take a look just how dominant Manny Pacquiao really is at his profession. Pop in the tape of his beat down of 1st ballot and All time great, prime Marco Antonio Barrera in 2003. It was incredible to watch, the brutality, the athleticism and the grace. It was an astonishing display of Manny’s greatness.
The “IT” Factor
The “IT factor does not automatically make you a legend. Oscar De La Hoya has the “IT” factor, but he never became a true ring legend. The “IT” is part attraction to the athlete and part admiring what you are seeing. It is a feeling when you are watching something special. You get it when you see Tiger Woods charging down the last 3 holes of a major championship. You get it when you watch Kobe Bryant drop 81 points on the Toronto Raptors. You get when you see Roger Federer win his 15th major title over a game Andy Roddick in a classic. And you get it when you are watching Manny Pacquiao destroy a tough current champion Ricky Hatton. It is hard to explain what “IT” is, but Manny Pacquiao definitely has “IT”
Who’s the Best
It is hard to say. I guess it depends what you really like. I like boxing, so I think Pacquiao is on par with the others, but I could see any argument for any of the other modern greats. Memo to the mainstream media, don’t forget about Manny Pacquiao. He should be included in the discussion.
Sugar Shane Mosley
It looks like Sugar Shane Mosley finally has given up on trying to land a fight with Manny Pacquiao. I feel bad for Shane on this. I know it is hard to feel bad for a multi-millionaire future 1st ballot hall of famer. But I do feel bad. I really believe that the Pacquiao advisement team never considered Mosley because they considered him too dangerous. Too bad, It would have been a great event and a great fight. But Shane realized it was time to move on and good for him. My advice to him would be to avoid Andre Berto at all costs. What, you say. Andre Berto, the same guy who went life and death with Luis Collazo. A guy Mosley nearly shut-out in 2007. Remember, never underestimate youth and hunger. And while Mosley is the superior fighter if you were to match them up against other opponents. Berto’s speed, youth and style would give Mosley fits and I think it could lead to an upset. If I were on Mosley’s team, I would focus on guys that come at you and that will engage and fight. 2 names come to mind, Joshua Clottey and Kermit Cintron. Both of them would be good tests and very winnable fights for Mosley.
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Pacquiao is a good model for everyone to emulate. He is great not only because of his accomplishments in boxing. He is a GOD fearing person with a hunmble heart
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giusseppe i agree in everything u said,what did u said?????lmao
hahaha! noypi, you don’t speak Cebuano?
A CHALLENGE TO NOONEPACMANFAN!
SABTA BEFORE REPLY HA!
hoy noonepacmanfan, tiguwang naman unta ka. kung ka-edad mo ni manny, 5yrs older ka nako.. unless sige ka undang ug skwela mao nagdungan mo ni manny, at least 5yrs imo katiguwangon. tiguwang naman unta ka wala man kay buot mu-storya?
aber, huna-huna kuno ang topic be!? ako ba discredit si manny diri? ako ba gi-ubos ang pagtan-aw nako diri???? hoy, animal kang tigulanga ka! arang kabulok naman lang nimo! high school gradaute ra ko pero dili ko pareha nimo deretso lang ug comment na wla kasabot sa ako giyaw-yaw.. ang ako gi-criticize diri ang mga tawo na nagcomment ug “pacman the greatest” ug mga pareho ana na comment… i recognize pacman as one of the best in the sport but claiming him to be the greatest of all time??? are you insane??? unless we know all the facts, then maybe we could claim he’s the greatest! kung mu-ingon mo ana at least give some concrete argument… ang ako criticize naay dala hangyo na unta kung magcomment ug ingon ana, iback-up ila comment.. kay kung buhi pa si Sugar Ray Leonard karon w/ more than 100 professional fights sa iya record, mu-ingon pa kaha mu-ana? unless tuktuk drivers rapud iya kalaban. remember mas brutal ang boxing before than karon…
so manong tiguwang, palihog sabta ang tumong sa ako comment sunod ha??? dili magbinugo kay tigulang naman unta ka ug sa ako pagsabot migradwar man ka ug college…
dili tumong sa ako comment na ilookdown si pacman.. ang ako, objectivity sa comments..
btw, unsay labot nako kung silingan mo??? nanghambug ka???
correction: i meant Sugar Ray Robinson who had more than 100 professional bouts in his career. not Leonard…
bisdak sab diay ka noy? sabton lang nako ang imong kasuko inngon man gyud nia-na pag mag tigulang na ta! ayaw lang pag palabi ug kasuko mahal baya ang tambal para sa HB (high blood) basi baya ug moti-orok ka lang diha!:roll:
there are lot of greats in different sports,there is no greatest athlete in all of sport,dont put pacman in that pedestal he’s one of the best in boxing indeed,and still the greatest filipino athlete is paeng nepomuceno….lol
Billiards I mean. Sorry.
But of course, we can put Paeng Nepomuceno as the best in Bowling and Efren “Bata” Reyes as the best in Billiars. Pacquiao in Boxing?! Those catchweights blew him. It s should be Ray Robinson (who fought bigger boxer at their best and not Pacquiao challenging a bigger and good boxer handicapped).
I don’t even consider Boxing a Sport. It’s business. If it is really a sport, then it is the most non-sensible sport I’ve ever heard of.
Kobe does not belong with the caliber of Tiger Woods or Roger Federer. They are distinctively the best in their respective sport (though Rafael Nadal have more wins against Federer).
Good Article! I like Manny Pacquaio. I watched his last two fights in PPV and he is very exciting and entertaining. I am not Philipino but i really admire the Pacman, he bring back the excitement in boxing. Pacquaio is the greatest asian fighter of all time and he is really belong to the category of Kobe, Tiger Woods, and all of the famous and great athletes.
basketball is the best sports there where u see how a team works,take a side there ego where you need to play 82 games against 20+ plus opponent,your fighting for 1 championship,for fighting sports there are still mma vs boxing if u will let them fight definetly mma is much complete fighting sport….lol
for me boxing is the sport who ever made the training in hardships in this sport is extremely awesome so i believe that manny deserved to be the best in any sport
I’m surprised some people here criticize other’s opinion. The question here is like “which tastes the best, apple, orange or pear?” How can one’s opinion be wrong if he likes one of these more than the other?
My OPINION…apple, err Manny Pacquiao!
yes, i dont disagree…manny is the best…he is came from nothing…in boxing he has great accomplishment.Golf is only sports of rich people and boring to watch.boxing is the best.
Boxing is more of a gambling than a sports. I go for Woods n Jordan. Some Filipinos n Pachuggers r illogical in their comments. Sports is not just about fighting. And boxing are mafia’s favorite sport.
they are all greatest in thier own category. but combining all sports in all greatest comparison, boxing tops them all.. in boxing alone, u can be dead in an instant if you are not fit enough.. many boxers died risking thier lives just to get and taste a slice of pie… based on what was happened on pacquiao/hatton fight. lucky for hatton he was still alive. he was like a fish being fished out of water and that was very scary!!
meanwhile, pacquiao admitted in an interview that he’s time will soon be over.. he will not going wait until his body will end up like a vegetable..
Correct in the inclusion… Thanks Pacquiao will live forever…
paquiao is the best, his excellent conduct of sportmanship, and a very humane attitude shown inside and outside the ring and respect for his opponents and really he did entertained people the way he performed inside the ring either being a winner or a looser.
karamihan dito mga nonsense although there are some good points like tony @ #30 and nopyi’s comments are good. karamihan dito pacnuthugger.. kase pinoy lang sya nawawala ang objectivity sa tanong kung sino ang pinaka-magaling.. i don’t know the criteria and this is highly debatable. sana magpost kayo naman ng arguments nyo kung claim nyo magaling si pacman.. hindi lang puro “Pac is the greatest”.. wtf?? says who? ang galing mo naman! alam mo! saan ka kumuha ng criteria mo? baka naman nagddrugs ka jan at di mo alam pinagsasabi mo?? pa-share naman at baka maliwanagan din ako!
hoy, pilipono ka man unta dong? mora’g ang imong paghanga ni pacman ma-bao ra kaayo??? swerte ka lang nga layo kara nako bay, kay tingali’g mag sung-go unya nang ilong nimo, kaila kau ko ni manny dong, kay silingan ra mi sa GenSan ug nag kadungan mi ug eskwela sa Gr 1 to Gr6, pwerteng pobreha dyod tawon ni pacman (pero karon, he is still the same person when he was in his grade school, matinabangon kaayo sa mga pobre nga pareha nako, he never change) so maayo unta ug ma-usab kanang imong pag lantaw ni pacman…
Way to go Mang Godo you’re right with you assetment with Manny….
hoy noonepacfan, tiguwang naman unta ka. kung ka-edad mo ni manny, 5yrs older ka nako.. unless sige ka undang ug skwela mao nagdungan mo ni manny, at least 5yrs imo katiguwangon. tiguwang naman unta ka wala man kay buot mu-storya?
aber, huna-huna kuno ang topic be!? ako ba discredit si manny diri? ako ba gi-ubos ang pagtan-aw nako diri???? hoy, animal kang tigulanga ka! arang kabulok naman lang nimo! high school gradaute ra ko pero dili ko pareha nimo deretso lang ug comment na wla kasabot sa ako giyaw-yaw.. ang ako gi-criticize diri ang mga tawo na nagcomment ug “pacman the greatest” ug mga pareho ana na comment… i recognize pacman as one of the best in the sport but claiming him to be the greatest of all time??? are you insane??? unless we know all the facts, then maybe we could claim he’s the greatest! kung mu-ingon mo ana at least give some concrete argument… ang ako criticize naay dala hangyo na unta kung magcomment ug ingon ana, iback-up ila comment.. kay kung buhi pa si Sugar Ray Leonard karon w/ more than 100 professional fights sa iya record, mu-ingon pa kaha mu-ana? unless tuktuk drivers rapud iya kalaban. remember mas brutal ang boxing before than karon…
so manong tiguwang, palihog sabta ang tumong sa ako comment sunod ha??? dili magbinugo kay tigulang naman unta ka ug sa ako pagsabot migradwar man ka ug college…
dili tumong sa ako comment na ilookdown si pacman.. ang ako, objectivity sa comments..
btw, unsay labot nako kung silingan mo??? nanghambug ka???
they are all the best.
the best in their decades.these athletes like woods,kobe, pacquiao, federer were born on the same year or year apart.
but who is the best among the best. i would say manny pacquiao.
woods, kobe, federer were born with something manny was born with nothing.
the trio of kobe, woods, federer were shaped, trained in their sports at a very young age by their parents.
as we saw how woods was already golf putting at 2 years old. their training started when they begun to walk.
manny went to boxing because of poverty. no training , no mentor, no food but he looked for food.
only when he was on his teen that he went to boxing to augment and helped his mother to buy food.
his body had no nourishment, no vitamins but shaped by hardship.
no doubt, manny is the best.
nuthuggers are on the loose,greatest of all sports ever pacman?not even greatest athlete in the philippines compare he’s achievements to paeng,stop nuthugging it so happened that bowling is not as famous as boxing but achievements he will never surpass paeng,Lt. Red is comparing the loss of other athletes to pacman’s 3 loss is absurd stupidity,how can u compare jordans team bulls loss when they play 82 games a year pacman fights about 2-3 alone your a real dickrider….lmao
Noypi, do you know how to read or not,I said rate the performance and the ratio of their losses then you can compare who is the greatest.You must be an idiot or a losser your self.
Noypi what’s your alphabet? 1,2,3?
No other name that comes closer to be the greatest but Manny Pacquiao. However if he beats Cotto then he should be the one no doubt. Before retirement he should fight Floyed on what ever weight PBF wants. I’m sure Manny could take care of this guy no matter what and the funny thing is Floyed knows it.
The Pacman’s greatness echoes for eternity not for his ferocity inside the ring, but for the inspiration he gave to a lot of people;
Bless him.
Just compare the defeats that the athletes had suffered from their opponents Tiger Woods may have been defeated several times by his fellow golfers.How many times chicago bulls(Michael jordan) lose to another basketball team.How about Roger Federer how many times he was defeated by other Tennis players and Manny Pacquiao had 3 defeats. if you put the performance of each athletes the ratios of defeats between them then you can come up who is the greatest.
Hey Lt. Red, I don’t think your assesment is right? Just look at # 8 Mang Godo’s comment I don’t think (KB24,MJ, Federer & Woods) have not experienced what Manny Pacquiao experienced thru his life since childhood until what he become now!
I don’t what you’re talking about you must be with the fairies.
I don,t know what you are talking about you must be with the fairies.
I agree. Apparently some guys here, like NOONEPACMANFAN, rate Pacman as the greatest just because he gone thru extreme poverty. Everybody acknoledges that he is one of the rare breed. A rags to riches story. However, a topic on greatest athlete isn’t about sympathy! Where did you get your brains NOONEPACMANFAN? You’ve been rambling about how Manny has ascended from poor to being something he is today. We know that already! The debate is something different. Maybe you should try to run another debate on “WHO AMONG THE GREAT ATHLETES OF TODAY HAS THE MOST AMAZING RAGS TO RICHES TO STORY?” or something like that. I guess Pacman’s story is one on the top list. If we pick on who the best athlete is based on sympathy, then where is the objectivity in that??? Tsk tsk! You’re such a sore loser, NOONEPACMANFAN! Ngano dili man nimo sundugon si PACMAN??? Nanghambug man jud kaha ka na classmate mo niya ug silingan pajud mo. Ayaw pakaulaw oi!
Pacquiao is the best
wid pacquiao accomplishments….he is the BEST!
not only that!
he is humble…
his lifestory is a fairy tale…
he is generous and had a big heart for his people
he does not disrespect his opponents
he accepts defeat….
he is GOD fearing and never forgets to Thank GOD!
and most of ALL! Everybody LOVES THE PACMAN…from writers, trainers, coach, fellow boxers in Wild Card Gym, promoters, fans, politicians, and so on and so forth…..
manny pacman is the number one in the europe….battle_realms
No need to prove! Maybe Michael Jordan & Pacman tied on No. 1 SPOT!
pacman is the best athlete right now but should he beat cotto, mosley, marquez and mayweather. No doubt-THE GREATEST.
No need to prove! Maybe Michael Jordan & Pacman tied on No. 1 SPOT! Kobe has nothing compared to MICAHEL JORDAN’s greatness!
Your right…for me Pacman is the greatest boxer and athlete too. Keep up the good work.
tiger woods? you americans are pretty retarded…
id like to comment but no thanks… this is very difficult.
I voted for PACMAN, you know why because he deserve to be the greatest of all time and he really proved it to many people around the world!!!!
IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT CRITERIA DO YOU JUDGE THE “BEST”. BEST TO INCLUDE HAZARD( I MEAN THE DANGER OF THE SPORT TO ONESELF), SPORTSMANSHIP (DOES HE PLAY FAIR AND ADMIT DEFEAT AS A TRUE SPORTSMAN?), PERSONALITY (BEHAVIOUR OUTSIDE OF THE GAME), INFLUENCE (HOW HE AFFECTS THE FANS’ FEELINGS), ETC. THESE IN ADDITION TO HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
pacman is not the greatest athlete,they have there own greats in different sports,if u say in fighting sports i can’t still say that,how about MMA he can never win there maybe one of the best in his sports that’s pacman and he’s not even the greatest athlete that the philippines have,the great paeng nepomuceno is the greatest filipino athlete ever,but pacman is one of the best….
Did you know that Manny Pacquiao is an alien from another planet? It’s not fair for other athletes to make him the greatest.
Lets discussed this at http://www.pacfans-corner.com i’ll show you evidences
PACQUIAO,THE BEST
Boxing of course individual sports risking their lives and Manny Pacquiao is the best of them all no doubt.
the best fighter atheletes manny pacman pacquaio the real warrior, big heart, generosity. peacemaker, he deserv our future mother earth, focus our future balance, going trust, believed our god.
The difference between a “team sport and individual sport” should be considered in determining the greatness of an individual. Sport such as basketball needs 5 members to win a game while in boxing…one man needs to do everything by himself.
AND THE WINNER IS…..
MANNY “PACMAN ” PACQUIAO
OTHERS MAY BE MO.1 IN THEIR SPORTS
BUT OVERALL ACHIEVEMENT AND POPULARITY
IS THE MAN FROM SARANGANI, PHILIPPINES.
I think boxing has a higher stature compare to Basketball,Tennis,golf..people world over genuinely follows this boxing sport by heart and passionately too.Basketball is more about capability of a team to let one particular player to banner a great team ,without the full team’s cooperation this ace player won’t score tremendously.While in Golf although it is also a great sport the greatest element to control and be fantastic golfer is constant chance that doesn’t credit fully any player.Tennis is famous for the glamours and great looks as an image,this
creates a pull on both ends great player or great image.Boxing! should i explain further? everything comes least priority when it comes to training and preparation and execution..it a great war of athleticism of a highest order needless to say Basketball need to adjust the board height by now,Tennis should compensate fans of post game stiff necks and golf not the greatest way of reforestation of any denuded landscapes anywhere in the world.Manny is amazing,Manny is incredible..Manny is new gauge of boxing excellence of the coming era.
Wait until the full story is written but for now, he’s great. I’m sure Manny will be crowned the Greatest Boxer Of All Time (surpassing the names Ali, robinson, etc). and perhaps The Greatest Sportsman ever live!
PACQUIAO IS THE GREATEST
the 4 sport mention, only boxing has the highest chances that your life is at stake… that’s why its one of the dangerous sports.
Basketball, golf and tennis never had a death occurrence during play/fight time.
During the boxer’s bout his life is always in danger. Cuts and bruises is just part of the game.
So Manny’s achievement is far superior than those 3 sports mention.
see yah at http://www.pacfans-corner.com
good point….agrees wid you bro….
the 4 sport mention, only boxing has the highest chances that your life is at stake… that’s why its one of the dangerous sports.
Basketball, golf and tennis never had a death occurrence during play/fight time.
During the boxer’s bout his life is always in danger. Cuts and bruises is just part of the game.
So Manny’s achievement is far superior than those 3 sports mention.
Who is the best? lets do royal rumble inside the ring with federer with his tennis rocket, kobe with his ball, woods with his golf clubs and pacquiao with his gloves and lets find out who’s the best
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The question here is who is the best athlete among the four, you can start to compare the achivements of these great athletes to one another at different sport.
MANNY PACQUIAO is a man to beat. Because he’s done a tremendous job in and outside of the ring. He is a warrior that has a very very big big heart for his fellow countrymen. In boxing, many boxer wants to land a fight with him because of golden opportunity in terms of money and to become an instant superstar in the world. Oscar de la hoya did it in his prime but in terms of money only, but PACQUIAO gives you a lot of compliments if you beat him in terms of MONEY, instant SUPERSTAR and last but not the least to become one of the best POUND for POUND in the world of boxing.Ü
You’re right ALDRIN, MANNY “PACMAN” PACQUIAO is the MAN. That’s why many boxer wants to fight him eventhough they are not the same as the caliber of PACQUIAO now, because they will surely earned the “MONEY” that they can probably earned for their entire boxing career in just one fight. And that fight is a fight with the man named: MANNY PACQUIAO.Look at what happened to David Diaz he earned almost a million dollar maybe that earnings with a fight with PACQUIAO is more than to his combination of earnings when he started boxing until his last fight before the fight with MANNY PACQUIAO..
Manny continues to defy the great odds against him.
He was a shoo-in for the fight against Ledwaba, who was being groomed as the next big thing in the lighter weights. He KO’d Ledwaba. Manny was a 5-1 underdog against the great Barerra, and stopped Barrera in his tracks. He went toe-to-toe against Marquez who was being dodged by the tops fighters, and knocked him down 4 times in 2 fights. Against Diaz, it was his first fight at lightweight and succeeded by knocking out Diaz. He was written off against Dela Hoya, but made dela Hoya quit in 9 rounds at 147 pounds! Manny KO’d Hatton in 2 ! What else is preventing Manny from being recognized? I guess it’s his fans.
golf is a very boring sport. yo’ll just to put a ball in a hole. just like basketball. tennis you just need to hit to ball. boxing is far more better sport. its physical, its deadly, when you climb up in the ring you are risking your life for greatness. same for other martial arts. fighting sports should be respected.
all in all. the pacman should be the greatest..
uncle bob is right.Pacquiao is the greatest. Wait ’till he beat Cotto, he’ll be a 7 division world champion. Has anyone in boxing ever done that?
Pacquiao is the greatest, boxing compare to other sports is the hardest because its a physical and mental game, unlike basketball or football, you can always rely to your team mates, golf is only mental game and precision, tennis is good but no danger at all
ask nike.com, manny for them is one of the greatest athlete of our time!
Manny Pacquiao is no great. He is nobody. Until you face him in the ring. He is a heavy weight punches disguised as flyweight with flyweight speed. Thats why he is not great but the GREATEST when you know what you’re talking about!
tiger woods heads too big and boxings better then basket ball there for manny pacquiaos the man right now until next year anyway
MP may not be the best fighter in terms of skills but his accomplishments is what made him great. Indeed, a quintessial athlete!
Pacquiao has been displaying his weirs to bet bigger guys and doesnt happen to any great boxers. Lineal championship and in 6 class weight and six division champion is not a joke. Impossible was made possible by Pacquiao.
What did Manny Pacquiao do which prompted debuting 140lb contender Juan “Baby Bull” Diaz to say that Manny Pacquiao is America’s MOST WANTED?
Pacquiao for president!
mayweather will surely beat pacquiao. pacquiao always ask for a cacthweight in his favor!
tiger woods is the best right now!
pacquiao is no great.
Moron comments, No brainer!